On understanding

From another Dave:

If you asked my father what Dave’s favorite music is, he would have told you what his favorite music is, and (importantly) he’d think he’s answering the question. If you ask someone why Dave works so hard, he’ll tell you what he aspires to. He might say Dave does it to get rich. That wouldn’t tell you anything about Dave, but it likely tells you something about him. This is important to understanding disputes, and is why listening is so important. For example, the US thought North Vietnam was fighting because they were part of a global communist alliance to defeat the west. The Domino Theory. Because we were at war against that. The Vietnamese were actually fighting a war of independence, and were puzzled why the US, a former colony that fought for its independence, was fighting them. Moral of the story: Unless you ask, you probably don’t know why someone is doing what they do. 

Dave Winer (Oct 11, 2018)

how to be generous in a debate

He has some differences of opinion with himself…

What could easily have been an accidental (and funny) dig on someone else’s argument turned into an honest reflection on the difficulty of being intellectually consistent with complex issues.

Jordan Peterson was speaking on a panel at OCON, and brought up an argument he’s had with Sam Harris (who was not in the room) about where values come from.

If he was in a mindset of winning an argument or one-upping Harris, he could have let it stand as a great soundbite.

Instead, he followed up with:

Well, it’s very difficult to be entirely coherent when you think through something that’s complicated. There’s likely to be inconsistencies in your argument because it’s so complicated.

LIVE from OCON: Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, Yaron Brook, Greg Salmieri
From The Rubin Report, 2018-07-02
Full episode: Omny.fm


check out my sick elephant!

I’m loving the sick elephant series on right now over at Wondermark.

I started reposting them all here for myself, but the best thing you can do is go to the first in the series and click through them on his site, so he gets good feels from knowing people are reading them. And so you’ll never know if you’re reading an elephant comic until you know you’re reading an elephant comic. 

Don’t deprive yourself — go read them

The second best thing you can do is read them all here if you’re too lazy to click through.

Update: I’ve posted up to number 13, but Wondermark is up to number 19 20 on the elephant train! Check out the sick elephant over there — I’m not going to keep reposting them.

Putting the No in Nose

Truly, perhaps all animals are elephants with leprosies of various severity

In which an Elephant is sick

Still undetermined: the type of pachyderm the leprous beast actually is. This is a new frontier for animal science

In which the Sickness descends

And honestly, I feel great!

A Memory Set in Stone

Whenever you buy a tombstone they give you a little wagon to pull it around in. That’s standard

In which a Case is cracked

Tusks are made of chitin, obviously.

In which a Professional is found

An easy enough mistake to make — the practice noodlenosers back in veteronorfian school are all wooden models from the 30s.

Bones of Stone, Heart of Gold

THE HEIST OF THE EPOCH!!!

Bones of Stone, For the Bold

fortunately there are lots of handy how-to techniques for this process on SkelShare.com

In which the Staff is short

It is definitely a literal bone thing. That doesn’t rule out it ALSO being a sex thing, but it is definitely, foremost, a bone thing.

The Cossack Gone Astray

Turns out you can weave a LOT of Chekhov short story titles into 17 short lines of dialogue

In which the Stacks hold Facts

‘The Scarlet Herring’ seemed like it was gonna be pretty good, but then it never really went anywhere.

In which a Tract is hacked

That tract was originally about a kid who valued his special trousers over the love of his family. You know, real relatable content

Thick Skin, White Soap

I think I saw an article in ELLE just recently about the phenomenon